C of E clergy on women bishops
Posted by Chris T. on Wednesday, May 14th, 2008
Thinking Anglicans is reporting that nearly half of the women clergy in England have signed a forceful statement of support for the consecration of women bishops — provided further "flying bishop" hedges not be attached:
We believe that it should be possible for women to be consecrated as bishops, but not at any price. The price of legal “safeguards” for those opposed is simply too high, diminishing not just the women concerned, but the catholicity, integrity and mission of the episcopate and of the Church as a whole. We cannot countenance any proposal that would, once again, enshrine and formalise discrimination against women in legislation. With great regret, we would be prepared to wait longer, rather than see further damage done to the Church of England by passing discriminatory laws. In this, we support the recent principled stand taken by the Archbishop and Bishops of the Church in Wales.
It seems to me that trying to concoct messy schemes of episcopal visitors is a non-starter if the C of E is going to begin consecrating women bishops. Female priests are already a bridge too far for conservative Anglo-Catholics, because hopes of corporate reunion with Rome are basically over. So there is already tremendous tension there. Trying to craft schemes to keep everyone happy just denies these deep differences — and, from a pro-WO perspective, denies that female bishops are in fact bishops for the whole Church instead of just a slice of it.
There is a corollary to this in the Independent Catholic world. As I have written before, when we try to argue on the basis of Dominus Iesus or other documents that our orders should be considered valid under Roman canon law, we've essentially abandoned our strongly argued case for women priests and bishops, who have contributed strongly and increasingly to passing on the apostolic faith in our movement, through teaching and the laying on of hands. In Rome's opinion, no man could receive the apostolic priesthood or the episcopate through a woman's hands, rendering all those arguments about validity pointless. We should be willing to stand on our own merits, not play canonical games with Roman documents.
Difficult though it may be to admit it, on either side, this does seem to be a communion-breaking issue. I applaud my sister priests who wrote this statement, and hope the Church of England joins those catholic churches around the world that teach that women can be ordained to episcopate — rather than crafting a hedge that leaves its teaching open to interpretation.
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3 Responses to “C of E clergy on women bishops”

Yup, it would be good if we (we Christians, not just we a particular communion) stopped doing what I have called “ecumenism over the backs of women.”
Lots of interesting conversations and documents on this from the 1970s, e.g. the World Council of Churches Community Study (the Community of Women and Men in the Church, leading to the 1981 Sheffield Report) et al…
No time to write much — deadline to meet and am going up to Boston tomorrow for Krister Stendahl’s memorial service, which is Friday, so I’m dashing about. Keep me in your prayers. Thanks for this interesting piece of news.
I wish there would be more discussion in the IC community about your position on Dominus Iesus. I am inclined to agree with it. There are far too many among us who understand their orders more on Roman Canon Law than Catholic Theology. I imagine much of this comes down to dreams of a “miraculous reunion” between Rome and autocephalous communities. I think we have a lot of bishops who think someday they will be incardinated into Rome and given a house and a diocese.
Chris,
An excellent point for discussion, as always. From my perspective and experience, the IC community needs to embrace our own spiritual legacy and gift to the Church. We need to stop seeking some sort of legitimacy from Roman documents. We do not need them. We need to embrace our “adult” church lives and stand on our own accomplishments in the Holy Spirit which include historic advancements in sacramental eqaulity across gender, sexuality, and orientation lines. (To my knowledge it was IC churches that first ordained women priests and bishops and included open ministry to LGBT persons.)
Our participation and belief in the theology of Apostolic Succession is our theological and faith grounding as sacramental churches.
On our AIHM Order and St. Mary of Grace Parish websites, we removed references to Dominus Iesus, replacing it with a loving tribute to some great hero Bishops in our movement from which we have Apostolic Succession and an explanation of this theology. I welcome anyone to review them and offer their thoughts.
http://www.aihmfriars.org
http://www.inclusivecatholics.org